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Planetside 2

Planetside 2 - What is it and why do I want to play it?

My goal of this blog post is to explain PS2 from my own perspective and to give some insight as to how we at SOE view the game and what it's like compared to other shooters and MMOs. I also want to explain what we think the heart of the gameplay is.. and just as importantly what it isn't. I'm also going to talk about our plans for the future. We have games that have run for over 13 years, so when we're making Planetside 2 we aren't looking at what it's like in 2012. We're thinking about a game we plan to have running in 2025. Yeah. Really. I plan on doing a lot of direct comparisons to other games. When I'm doing that in no way do I want any of this to be viewed as me slamming other games. I've played the heck out of Battlefield 2 and 3 as well as BFBC2. I've also played a ton of MW2 and MW3 as well as TF2. I am primarily a PC gamer. I've also played on teams extensively. All of the above games are amazing and are made by people with tremendous talent and passion that I have the utmost respect for. We're making Planetside 2 to be a game we at SOE want to play. We've gotten a lot of inspiration from elements of the above games as well as many other games.. including our own and especially from the original Planetside which we released back in 2003. Well ahead of it's time. This isn't meant to be a super comprehensive FAQ on Planetside 2 - just some things I wanted to get out there after reading a lot of questions and comments. Also - it's late.. I'm not spending a ton of time formatting this too well, so sorry for the wall of text in many spots.

So what is it?

Planetside 2 Is a massively multiplayer first person shooter game made by Sony Online Entertainment. The game is played in on gigantic open world continents with up to 2000 other players on a single continent. When we say it's massively multiplayer we're not talking about a bunch of instances like other games. All 2000 people are literally playing together and fighting in massive battles that aren't forced into tiny little arenas like other FPS games. Each player chooses to play on one of 3 empires… the New Conglomerate, The Terran Republic and the Vanu Sovereignty. It takes place in the distant future and each empire has a unique playstyle. Probably the closest comparison in terms of the empires would be a game like Starcraft II by Blizzard where each of the different races has a very unique playstyle and feel to it. 

How does it compare to other FPS games and to other MMO games?

As I said before it is truly a massively multiplayer game and you can actually be playing with 2000 other people on the same continent. But there are a lot of other differences that are very core to the experience when compared to other FPS games and other MMOs. As an FPS our goal has been to give it the graphical fidelity of a modern shooter in the same quality level as a Modern Warfare 3 or a Battlefield 3. Between those two games it is probably closer in play style to Battlefield 3 because it takes place on very large maps (although a continent in Planetside 2 is roughly 16 times the size of the largest BF3 map) and it has vehicle based gameplay. At present we have infantry, land vehicles and air vehicles all playing in the same environment. Down the line we plan on adding water based vehicles. The game is fast paced and is skill based, but unlike many shooters we offer character progression beyond just the standard unlocks found in other games or simple rank progression. Yes that stuff is very cool and works well in other shooters. The persistence in Planetside 2 is in many dimensions. Here's what I think makes us different:

1) We also have a very deep certification system. This system is something you advance through by gaining certification points (cert points) by playing (you will also be able to earn those points offline so you can keep up with your friends, although at a reduced rate). You spend those cert points on abilities in-game that can enhance your weapons, your vehicles and your character's class abilities and many other things. 
This certification system is far deeper than traditional unlocks in normal FPS games. It allows your character to truly be very different from other characters.. even ones that have played the same amount of time as you have. Our goal is to provide very deep and meaningful progression and attachment to your character. We made the decision to make this a time investment based system to give you the ability to customize your play style in ways that matter to you. It's not a simple unlock system. This system is a combination of the deep skills in a game like Eve Online combined with runes and masteries in League of Legends combined with unlocks in more traditional FPS games. The simple goal here was to make Planetside 2 insanely deep. We want people that play with different play styles to really be able to go crazy with their character's depth. We want literally years worth of certifications. I do want to make clear though that this is still a skill based game. A person with years of certs trained can still be shot down quickly by a noob that's a better shot. It's about being able to play the way you want to play.

2) Planetside 2 has the deepest team based gameplay of any FPS. We allow groups of 12 to form a squad. We allow 4 squads to form a platoon. Players can make an outfit (think Clan or Guild) with 300 people in it and all of you can play at once.. together. We have built Planetside 2 from the ground up to be about organized groups of players. We have a lot of leadership certifications that give leaders special abilities. In fact being a leader doesn't even mean you're the best player. A person who wants to specialize in leadership could spend a year leveling up a bunch of certs that give him the ability to level up his squad or platoon mates and give them a buff. Or the ability to drop a squad spawn beacon. Or the ability to promote people within his outfit.. or allow special chat abilities or voice abilities.. or having special chat channels that are set up by rank. We designed Planetside 2 to have the largest scale organized operations of any FPS ever made. You can literally go to war together and live and die together in a way that you just can't in any other FPS ever. Does this mean that you can't be a lone wolf in the game? No. You most certainly can be a lone wolf. We think that a big part of what makes Planetside 2 special is this amazing experience of large scale gameplay that you just can't get in any other FPS. If you want to compare it to anything, it's probably fair to say this particular aspect it's like an FPS version of Eve Online. We had a lot of this back in the original Planetside in 2003, but we've amped it up and made it more awesome with modern technology. We've put a lot of emphasis into high quality voice features (you literally could be addressing your entire 500 person outfit via voice).

3) Immersive world - Planetside 2 is very unique in the vast scale of our continents. It also has a complete day/night cycle. That changes everything gameplay wise. When you're fighting over a base that fight could literally take place over a day in-game that slowly turns to night. It's amazing to see that happen and it really changes how you play. It makes stealth matter in a big way, and it also means night vision equipment matters. Stealth really changes at night too. One of our biggest long term goals is to add weather to the planet that materially impacts gameplay. Imagine a sandstorm that grounds aircraft or blinds infantry or sweeps over the desert plain making visibility really bad. Our large scale also changes something really fundamental - there are no separate levels like normal FPS games. There are tons of bases and locations in many different parts of the map that are completely different from one another. We have huge sprawling bases that take combined forces to attack as well as a massive biodome where only infantry can get inside. Also territory matter in a material way. High ground matters. You can sit in a tank and literally shell the heck out of a base in the canyon beneath you. There has never been a game that has this kind of scale. 

4) The game doesn't have an end - This is a massive difference between Planetside 2 and every FPS out there. It isn't round based. There isn't a winner and a loser. It truly never ends. you could log out at night after the NC have taken over an entire continent and log back in the next morning and the Vanu have fought back and beaten the NC back to their warp gate. I have been asked an awful lot about this one point - some people see this as a bad thing. People say "what's the point?". Please think carefully about that. What is the point of playing a round of BF3 or MW3? There is a winning team and a losing team. Then it starts all over. That gives people the satisfaction of knowing they accomplished something. Planetside 2 has that exact same thing.. just on an enormous scale. You can fight over a base for 3 hours… and succeed in taking it over. People from the original Planetside still talk about taking over certain bases and the amazing feeling of accomplishing an organized strike that took 2 days to take over a base. We have leader boards.. and stat advancement just like those other games. Planetside 2 is different in that the world is persistent. That doesn't mean it's static. It changes based on player actions. It changes based on YOUR actions. What you and your team does matters in Planetside 2. You do get that same feeling of accomplishment over "winning" a match. in this case it's just taking over one small part of the map. This never ending thing really confuses some people that have only ever played round based FPS games. I understand why, but once they play for a while it's the kind of thing you quickly realize adds an amazing dimension to an FPS. In Planetside 2 you're fighting for your Empire and you're fighting for your outfit.. or your squad. And when you log out for dinner and then log back in, that same fight you were a part of could still be raging. 

5) Community - Other FPS games have great communities. What makes Planetside 2 different is the size of the server community you are playing on. I've always loved playing on the same servers for long periods of time in BF2 and BF3. I like seeing the same people every night. you get to know people and that's a big part of why I play online games. Planetside 2 has the same thing on a much larger scale.

6) Resource based gameplay and territorial control - One very key aspect of Planetside 2 is that on each continent we have the concept of territorial control. If you look on the map you'll see hexes that each side owns. Owning territory in Planetside 2 gives your empire physical resources. Those resources have a material impact on the game. If your empire doesn't own very many Polymers and Polymers are a major component of grenades or Galaxies.. your empire may not be able to spawn those things. This gives you a major reason to fight.. and to fight over particular territory. Our goal with this is to make a scarcity model that helps to frame the battle and the front lines. It's to your strategic advantage to take certain territory to allow you to do things in game your opponents can't. We also have big plans for why this is going to matter in the future which I'll explain below. 

7) Familiar gameplay - Planetside 2 plays like other shooters in it's moment to moment gameplay  - it uses the same basic controls as just about every shooter out there… we're probably most similar to BF3 because like that game we have vehicles and we've chosen controls that are standard across most FPS games. So you'll feel right at home immediately.

What about the business model? 

Planetside 2 is a Free to Play game. We have deliberately made the game so that a person never has to spend a dime. We don't charge for maps. We don't charge for basic equipment. There is no Pay to Win in Planetside 2. We allow you to purchase guns with either Station Cash (our microtransaction currency) or in-game resources. We are charging for what we call "sidegrades". What does that mean? It means a gun you get when you start the game is just as powerful as a gun you can buy. We're charging for different play styles. We may give the default Gauss rifle a damage value of 10 per second and a range of 5 meters. We may have another Gauss Rifle on the market that does 8 damage but has a range of 7 meters. Our goal is to provide a broad range of weapons that allow you to customize your play style the way you want. Very importantly we made the decision to also allow you to purchase weapons with in-game currency called Auraxium. You can literally buy the exact same guns without ever spending a dime if you put the time investment in. We aren't going crazy with making you spend a month to buy a gun. In some cases it may be as low as 3-4 hours to buy the cheaper guns and for the expensive stuff it might be 10-15 hours. We're still working all that out so those numbers are just examples. We want to make money but we want players to feel like they can play without paying. Our theory is simple - people that don't pay are still providing content for the people that do. The game I would say we are closest to with our business model is League of Legends. We are doing our very best to build a huge player community. We don't want to alienate players with a business model that people feel bad about. We have to pay the bills and our goal with this game is obviously to make an awesome game but we also have to make a profit. We also plan on having extensive customization options which we will likely only be letting players pay with Station Cash for. We'll also have convenience items that will speed up experience gain for a short time and other things like that. What we won't be doing is pay to win. We play this game too. We're not fans of that. Frankly I won't personally play games that do that and I plan on playing the hell out of PS2. Why are we going F2P instead of normal subscription or a box with no sub? Simple - we want to have a massive number of players and not charging anything up front or forcing a sub on people will give us a much bigger number. Our theory is over time enough people will spend that we'll be very successful. We also don't want to charge for things like new continents or new planets (in the future). We don't want to split the player base up. My opinion is this is bad for games like MW3 and BF3. It splits the player base up. That hurts in a game like Planetside 2 and we don't want it.

What are your plans for the future?

First off, we have a 3 year plan. That's really big. We plan on putting that out to the users at some point in the near future. This isn't some "vision" we plan on imparting on our players. It's our thoughts on what we think would be cool. We will listen to our users feedback and make changes based on that feedback. We think we have some killer ideas but our players have pretty good ones too! I want to be super clear here - these are just some of the ideas. The team has a ton.

Here are just a few cornerstone ideas we are considering. I want to be crystal clear and say that these are NOT promises these are ideas.. some of which may be canned. That thinking can change. It can even change fast. I just want you to understand we are looking to support this game for a very long time and add a lot of features to it.

1) Player Owned bases - we plan on releasing continents that are empty or partially empty where players can build their own bases. These are open world bases so others will be able to attack them. We're also planning on having these continents heavily resource based with new resource types that will be very rare..and lots of cool new stuff that can be built out of these new resources.

2) Harvestable resources - imagine SC II style resource harvesting with physical vehicles doing the mining or the harvesting.

3) Water between continents - seamlessly - this is really hard tech, but our goal is to make the whole planet seamless and allow water based vehicles.

4) Lots more vehicles and weapons - just what it sounds like. Many of these will take very rare resources to make.

5) NPC enemies - I don't want to call this PVE. That's not exactly what we have in mind. More like a global invasion that goes after everybody. This isn't a bunch of quest givers saying "go kill 10 rats" - this is bad ass aliens that want to gut you.

6) NPC armies - imagine as the commander of a base sending an NPC army towards another base MOBA style except it's in the middle of the Planetside 2. This isn't another game mode. It's all part of the same game.

7) Esports support - we plan on doing this pretty soon after launch. We plan on making this a big big thing and putting a lot of our resources behind it.

8) Weather

9) Mac version (soon after launch).

Like I said - some of these are just ideas.. some are already planned for the near term. Expect us to lay this out clearly and expect this soon.

Thanks and I hope this gives you some things to think about

Smed

Comments

Liking the future plans

Subject says it all.

The start of a long road ahead, looking forward to the journey.

Nice read

Good to see what your vision for the game is.

Not sure about NPCs at all to be honest, but water between the continents - fantastic!

Concept for post release addition - outfit cruisers akin to BF2142 titans.

The Future

NPCs just don't fit with pvp. The other future ideas sound really cool. I look forward to seeing what the full plan entails once you guys get ready to show us.

Sound awesome

Nice blog smed, really in-depth i love all the ideas. Planetside 2 has a good long life ahead of them I know it.

Outfit size?

You mention 300 player outfits as well as talking to an outfit of 500 players....which is it?

Thanks

Thanks for this amazing post Smed, cleared a lot of things up. It's also good to see some of the things from the Ideas Vault find their way in here!

Let me just get a few things out of the way before I tell you how amazingly awesome you just made your game sound:

Good to hear about outfit sizes being so huge. But are they 300 or 500? You said at one point that you could have up to 300, but then later you said you could address all 500 via voice..?

Another thing stood out to me was tanks shelling bases from cliffs. From the gameplay videos I've seen, it didn't look like the tank turrets had the vertical rotation to aim low enough to do this. I'm not imagining a tank sitting on a slope on a hill here by the way, I'm thinking of the huge canyons we've seen on Imdar that sometimes overlook bases. While I understand that the tanks obviously couldn't do this looking at 12 and 6 o'clock in relation to the tank's body, it could be possible at 3 and 9. This would also mean in order to perform this maneuver, you would have to expose your more vulnerable side armor to the people you were shelling. Layers upon layers. [:

Also, what was the reasoning behind certs for setting up a rank system? It seems a little harsh to make an outfit leader forfeit certs which he could otherwise spend on his weapons, just to acquire a feature which is bog standard in other MMOs. I also can't see people spending certs on rank-dependent voice systems when this can be achieved with 3rd party freeware like TS3 or Mumble.

Now the awesomeness. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. Oh. My gosh (yes "gosh"; I'm English [;). Now I've got that out of my system... Adding destructible harvester vehicles is an amazing idea!

Love the sound of water between bases, and making the whole planet seamless. It'll be tough (I imagine the netcode is already tough enough for a single continent let alone 3 (or more if they're added - but as a friend of mine once said, netcode is what SOE do). Only thing is I'm not sure what good water vehicles would be if they have no objectives to fight over. Maybe have oil-rig bases and underwater bases in between the land based continents, or you could even have the three land based continents arranged around a future island based continent. Actually I think that's an amazing idea, I'm gonna flesh that out below.

Island based continent! Like the archipelago map type in Age of Empires, only with objectives in between the islands. That. Would be frickin' awesome. Then you could have little D-Day-esque landings to take over bases on islands and stuff, with amphibious tanks and troop transports. Or you could add certs to make existing vehicles amphibious (obviously the Vanu MBT is already amphibious, not sure how that would balance - maybe you have to add a cert for traversing "deep" water?). Then more certs for increasing speed over water. Amphibious Sunderers and Vanguards, excuse me while I giggle with childish joy.

And alien invasions? I don't know, have you ever seen the Homer Simpson beer bottle opener? It comes with a speaker that, when you open the beer says in his voice "Mmm Beeeer. YES OH YES WOOHOO!". I feel like that but with bad ass aliens that want to gut you instead of beer.

A quick one this, red dot sights that mimic the central reticle. I.e., when you use a grenade launcher you get an artillery reticle in your RDS. And if you have an underslung weapon, then your RDS changes its display appropriately.

Finally, how about adding certifications to increase squad size, platoon size, and outfit size? For example, the default squad starts at 6 players, then you can cert into squad size up to 12. Adding certs to increase platoon size from 3 squads to 4 (Also, how about 5 squad platoons? That would be awesome). And starting out with a platoon size of 100, and jumping up in via certs fifties to 300.

P.S. Thunderstorms please! Mess up electronics and stuff :P

lol

If you manage to even implement just one of your "ideas" in the next 2 years I'll eat my hat. You're most likely going to be spending all your resources working out how to combat the crippling lag and performance your game will suffer with 200+ people on screen at once and figuring out new crap for the cash shop to sell, man. Innovative and awesome ideas like in your list there will have to wait.

Nah I'm just kidding I bet your game will be awesome. The beta-leaks look pretty damn great so far anyway =D

just a thought on #3

Instead of a continent, go with an archipelago
in place of tanks, use something like the old PT boats from WW2
for a transport in place of the sunderer you could model something off the landing craft used during the invasion of Normandy.
and for a new mobile spawn/amphibious launching point, model a larger slower craft off the USS Freedom. Use the helicopter pad as an air terminal and add a well deck underneath for a boat terminal.

actually it looks like the USS San Antonia has a decent profile and both a helicopter landing pad on the aft end and a well deck below.

just a thought. The islands could house the bases/capture points but the only way to get around would be using the water craft or using air craft. If things follow in PS2 as I’m used to seeing in Planetside, if there are a lot of aircraft, then both sides will pull a lot of AA to counter, which would make the watercraft the safer way to travel.
You forgot a reason to play.

8) Its fuckin PLANETSIDE. C'mon!

Flight Controls

"we're probably most similar to BF3 because like that game we have vehicles and we've chosen controls that are standard across most FPS games. So you'll feel right at home immediately."

Smed, what about those of us who are coming from other games, like Star Wars Galaxies, where the flight controls aren't that Battlefield garbage? I loathe that cumbersome, outright horrid control scheme! SOE really got it right with the control scheme in SWG: Jump to Lightspeed and it would be a shame not have that as an option for players who don't buy into the BF control paradigm.

Customizable flight controls will prevent players from being put off by the game.

Re: Flight Controls

PS2 aircraft dont control like BF3. Its incredibly odd the current control method and I'm not a fan. It just 'feels' wrong.

Re: Flight Controls

If it's like PS1 it'll be fine. Very space-like. Set all sliders to 0 and you are stationary. You have inertia after cutting the thruster (obviously you're slowed down by the atmosphere significantly.

Future Plans

I'm really looking forward to seeing Planetside grow as a long term MMO which will retain high populations on every server.

With regards to NPC's, I would like to see randomly spawning giant insects which emerge from beneath the planet surface. Like the giant beetles as seen in Starship Troopers. I believe this would fit really well into Auraxis. Perhaps even a cert to be available for individuals to Psi and temporariy control these beasts onto an opposing force!

Secondly I would really like to see a space based battlefront over the orbit of Auraxis. With troops invading space stations via docking Galaxy craft and various player sized ships providing cover around these stations. The faction holding these stations could hold vital satelite installations providing intel to ground force and also the capability to provide orbital strikes in certain areas.

Anyway thats my dream. Great work Smed's

Naval Warfare

Naval Warfare is missing from almost all modern FPS games. If Planetside can implement stuff like battleships, subs and even crazy stuff like (futuristic) jetskis that players can skirmish in while going between continents or to offshore bases, well, it'd be absolutely amazing. It'd set Planetside apart even more from the regular FPS games

I love PS2 and how it looks, except for one thing.

" we're probably most similar to BF3 because like that game we have vehicles and we've chosen controls that are standard across most FPS games. "

As a old PS1 vet, I honestly feel like you guys went a bit 'too' far towards the BF3 style gameplay in 2 respects.

1) Making the Main Battle Tanks the 'one-man-army' machines from BF3 instead of leaving them as the 'dedicated driver/dedicated gunner' they were in PS1.

2) Hot-swapping of crew seats in vehicles. Catching a mag, or prowler driving around without a gunner while in a reaver use to be a 'oooo easy kill!' moment as the driver would have to exit his hatch, then hop into the gunner spot to begin shooting back at you. Now though, with 1 button press, that one-man-army player/driver can now instantly swap to the new 'secondary gunner' seat on the MBT (or any other vehicle) and start shooting at you without ever having to expose himself.

These are the only two gripes i have about PS2.. and its because i feel they take 'away' from the teamwork aspect that PS1 had/still has.

Re: I love PS2 and how it looks, except for one thing.

Neither of your points are true of BF3.

1) A tank is a 2 hit kills from RPGs if you hit the side armor.

2) 2nd seats in MBTs are useless against aircraft.

Please don't try to say they've copied a game if you haven't done your research on it. If you don't like a feature, say so, but don't knock the devs of either game for copying games you don't like.

Re: I love PS2 and how it looks, except for one thing.

Did you ever play PS1? The MBT's in PS1 had separated drivers and gunners. you didn't drive + shoot your own tank and you had to get out to swap seats, not hit a button and magically teleport to the other station.

Both of those things are 'borrowed' from BF3, and neither were in PS1. In PS2 you can equip the 'secondary' gun with an AA gun which will make it lethal (atleast somewhat) to aircraft, but again, due to the fact that you can 'hot-swap', you dont 'need' a gunner for that gun. If you get attacked you can simply hot-swap to that weapon.

Im not comparing the damages or ttk of either game such as you are, what im comparing is the actual mechanics they copied.

So yes, i have done my research tyvm =P.

from a player of planetside since 03...

DO NOT ADD NPC's!

im not sure why soe continues to push this idea on us, when it was brought up years ago for PS:S we made it clear we didnt like it. it violates teh cor concept of planetside, Player VS Player.

your success or failure in planetside was determined soley by you actions, vs the actions of another living breathing player, you add NPC's and thats gone, instantly. Look back to what happend the last time SOE violated a core concept of planetside, the game died, nearly over night it died. the ones who left, did not want to leave, they wanted PS back, they pleaded, we all did. we begged you to revert what you did, but we were ignored, and as a consequence, one of histories most ambitious games, and IMO what was one of the best, died.

don't let this happen to planetside 2, i beg you to listen to the community on this, listen to your customers, to the lifeforce of teh game. it might be your creation but without the players it will die. i dont want that to happen. i want planetside2 to succeed, some of my best memories in my gaming carrer came from planetside1, even now, when i talk with outfit mates or other friends, we can share our memories of our conquests on ishandar, our trek though amerish's swamps during launch, when vehicles were rare. i was there man, i was there.

and i want to be here, i want to be playing planetside for the next decade, or longer. i stood by PS1 because there was nothing else like it. but PS2 is already not far off from other games of todays era, if you continue to ignore us, if you continue to pervert the game, to violate its cornerstones of exsitence, i dont know how many of us will continue to tolerate it.

you may get new players, but if you care nothing for all the years ive given you, then maybe its all for the better.

Re: from a player of planetside since 03...

Lol apparently you didn't read what he put before that they were all ideas and community driven changes. Dont skim the pages Read then reply. The NPC thing is a great idea, it would be a great concept if it was balanced and limited maybe to servers with it enabled (much like PvP is enabled on certain servers in many other mmo's.)I would love to go a step farther and have whole planets with alien continent and sanctuaries/warpgates that can be overrun by any of the 3 factions. This would make it key to pay attention to All continents as the devs could throw an alien invasion on a continent they have seen no action on in say 4-5 hours. Don't put Planetside 2 inside this little box, we need to think outside of the Planetside1 box and beyond to make a new and innovative 13 year game experience.

Re: from a player of planetside since 03...

i think its a horrible idea

so obviously the community IS divided on this

Thoughts Upon Idea's

Hello Mr.John Smedley,

To expound slightly on a couple of your posted idea's in a general sense for the future of "Planetside 2".

On Idea #1, allow Player Owned bases to be hackable so as to add insult to injury to an Outfits minor or major base. By hacking it from right under their noses. Even better if their is some sort of resource mineral supply depot to ransack such a structure. Thus draining a player owned base ability to self repair itself over time.

On Idea #2, besides players utilizing vehicles to mine precious resources. Allow Engineer class players to construct smaller robotic drones to mine smaller amounts for Outfit or personal use.

Idea #3, would the Forge Light engine that SOE has created. Permit for under sea environs to being created? If so the builders of the Vanu technology can have some scattered ruins under the sea. That if one holds those ruins and subsequent human built under seas bases. A buff, a landmark site like PS1, or a limited supply of rare resources can be minded from such a locale.

Perhaps a Vanu tech ruins can be placed inside an undersea cavern system that permits portals to cross from one section to another instantly. The portals can be infantry or small submersible sized craft for travel purposes.

On Idea #5, have the NPC Enemies be the Anicent Vanu themselves return disgusted at the human presence. Or Including deformed ancient Vanu zombies left behind as a failed experiment by the original ancient Vanu people as a warning to stay away.

On Idea #6, if a player population of a certain faction is lack luster in numbers. Have Npc army personnel of that faction supplement their player counter part numbers. So players of the VS aren't easily over run by the sheer numbers of TR players. Vanu Npc armies would duke it out against TR players. Besides VS Players with Command Ranks can order certain VS Npc army faction soldiers to do their strategic bidding.

On Idea #8, to have besides natural storms as you mentioned such as Dust Storms. To Have sci-fi esque storms such as a Trans-Dimensional Plasma Storm. Tying it to the story Lore of why the ancient Vanu disappeared. Such a Plasma storm for any person in it for a random set of time gets warped to another part of the continent or the world itself. So if a convoy of players vehicles and all gets caught in a plasma storm they could very well end up deep behind enemy lines.

I'll leave it at that thanks for your time in considering these notions of mine.

--- Atrayo.

Linux

So, you're going to port planetside 2 over for mac, any plans to port over to linux? If PS2 was on Linux I would very very rarely boot into Windows.

BF WorldEdition

This is not planetside2 but battlefield you have never played ps1 and there for you need to get away and stop making crappy games

What's the difference with the Dust 514/Eve Online universe?

Absolutely loving the direction this game is heading to and as you said, it's partly inspired by Eve Online, the most massive single gaming universe today. The developer of that game has clearly the same vision you guys have. So they're developing Dust 514 for PS3 which seems honestly, besides being on another platform, not that different from PS2.

With PS2 on PC and Dust 514 on PS3, following largely identical design principles, is there any room for these games to expand on each others platform?

Personally, I would love to see PS2 eventually becoming part of the Eve Online universe. It will probably never going to happen but it would make the game even 10 times more epic. So if this isn't going to happen at least the devs should thrive to reach the scale of PS2 to the epic level of Eve Online.

NPCs are a horrible idea

Title says it all. NPCs are a HORRIBLE idea. This will kill PS2 even worse than BFRs and Core Combat killed PS1.

I cannot adequately emphasize what a TERRIBLE idea this is. Absolutely awful.
Smed,

Get the leaders of large guilds / outfits who have been around your games and others involved. Many game companies take it to the community leaders who play their games and other games,and know what will be fun for them. These leaders carry the knowledge and experience of an expert consultant.

You have many you can easily contact who would likely be happy to tell you what would work or not and KNOW WHY.

Controller

Will the game have controller support? I don't want to drive tanks or fly aircraft with mouse and keyboard. Also, I'd be glad if you added some sort of separate PVE mode. What you described above doesn't sound exactly like what I'm thinking.

I created an account for this

I love the NPC idea and think there would be many fun uses for them!

If you have Steam, I'll gift you a copy but
Go play Section 8 Prejudice!
Every class should have a jetpack!
More hackable things around bases, so far they're just a bunch of walls and rooms.

Giant Spider Tanks with man cannons.

I can see how the NC and TR are different, but not much has been explained about the Vanu except that they tend to use energy weapons. I'm assuming they have the best stealth and electronics, although I find that simply not showing up on sensors works really well for a lot of cases in Section 8 Prejudice. What about electronic warfare? If communication is such a big deal, then surely disrupting communications could be a huge tactical advantage? Sensors? I haven't seen much evidence of sensors being a complex system in the beta footage so far.

I'll play Vanu just for their fighter alone. Feel free to give me a beta key so I can find out what makes the Vanu different!

I know that this could break the game by reducing all the buildings in the game to rubble and would be hard to implement, but I'd love to sneak up on a base, plant a demo charge, and blow a hole in the wall,

(or the base's sensors, or the base's communications, or an AA gun, etc.)

Long-range artillery would be awesome.

I understand the design enough to know why you don't include them, but LAV's would be a nice addition.

I'm taking time away from playing the Dust 514 beta to type this (I'll definitely play both).

Edited at 2012-08-13 03:23 am (UTC)

Veteran PS player

I am so excited about this game. I have some of my fondest memories of long battles fought on Planetside and I am looking forward to PS2. This was a very extensive article and it has just further stoked my adrenaline for PS2.

Veteran PS Player - MasterChief096

This article has made me feel better. I've been very active on the forums as of late, making suggestions about what PS2 can do to add to the meta-game and depth, but this reassured me that SOE still hasn't implemented most of the game yet, and that when they do the depth will return.

That being said, it is important to say this, and I really really hope you read this: Be careful on borrowing ideas. Its ok to use the combat styles and what not of other successful games like Battlefield, but do not sacrifice your own style. You have the opportunity to create a market of your own, the MMOFPS market. You are going to have your game played by more than just COD and BF players, by more than League of Legend guys and Team Fortress people. People are out there right now that PlanetSide 2 is the last game they'll ever need... until PlantSide 3.

Do not sacrifice your core philosophies, what made the first game great. Sacrifice the parts that failed because of technical issues, wrong implementation, or what have. Figure out how to innovate these things and bring them to the year 2012. You are making a re-imaging, PlanetSide 2. It should have as much of the PlanetSide style as possible.

Player-Owned Bases

I like the idea of player/outfit-owned bases, it will add some sandbox-style to the game.

It would be cool to have a security system in these bases, which is upgradeable through resources, like lockable doors (different levels with different amount of hack-time/armor), auto-turrets (aswell upgradeable in range/damage/fov), motion detection etc... There should also be a security room inside every base, where getting access allows the attackers to disable the security system, as well as allowing defenders to reactivate it. Some kind of base monitor (iPhone/Android App) would be great, where base-owners can monitor the security system of their base, lock/unlock doors and see which doors got hacked etc...

Edited at 2012-08-14 03:49 pm (UTC)

Re: Player-Owned Bases

Everything he said x10!

"Game Modes"

Hi John,

Thanks for your post - it was very enlightening and good to see some insight on your thought process and ideas for the future of the game.

I would like to see the addition of "Game Modes" that we see in other FPS games. These would be dynamically contained within the game, triggered by player actions or timed intervals.

-You could have a train supplying resources between bases that players can fight for control and push/pull between bases. The supply trains could carry resources that can be stolen. Outfits could cut resources to particular bases and "siege" them more effectively. This would create more strategy around which bases to target to isolate bases and crack their defences as a base is drained of resources and unable to spawn further vehicles.

-Research bases could enable certain technologies or enable a super weapon / vehicle and fires at intervals. The research could enable temporary stat boosts or access to particular items. The original planetside gave me some incredible experiences but in Dark Age of Camelot there were originally six castles (two per faction) that housed artefacts that could be captured and always resulted in huge battles each week over re-capturing them.

-Dynamic daily/weekly events - a large airship (think Shield base) / mech deploy with usable defensive positions, vehicle spawn, infantry respawn points. Someone mentioned D-day amphibious landings earlier but where are the hundreds of drop pods dealing death from above or huge Mech ominously approaching a base with its weapons unloading and infantry/vehicles pouring out.

no... just GIMME!

Who wants small ass ships anyways... I want to drive a monster huge sunderer with a full squad of prowlers! or a huge freaking mech with a whole platoon of infantry and a few vechs!

And I want galaxies that got ams! I want a damn Lodestar (think that was it's name) and I want a prowler in it (or more if I am able to) and hotdrop them right into the enemies flank!

You give me that... And I will give... -thinks for a moment- already gave you my soul when ps2 came out... ehh maybe one of my non-gaming limbs?

I must agree though... I miss the old prowlers where you had 1 driver and 2 gunners... and no hot swapping.
felt like a much better forced team play back then :)

More, more, more

First of all I want to say a massive thankyou for creating the game of my dreams, i'd talked and dreamt about this at secondary school for years eventually realising it wouldnt be made, until now! Thankyou so much.

Secondly some comments for the future. If you are going to introduce NPCs you will have to do it either as a server choice or require them to be mercenary-esque where you spend cert points to recruit and upkeep them like the Total War series mercenary units and if not paid will eventually desert or fight back. Also the introduction of player owned bases (POBs) would be a god send as it would allow rebel factions almost to be created, but an idea, why not underground bases that have multiple entrances but are impervious to air attack? Even more so what about POBs that can be rigged to be self destructed in case of capture? Obviously it would cost ins ome way or other but it would protect from the pain of losing something you've built up. Artillery would also be great to take out formatinos from 2km away for instance? Another idea would be COD-like killsreaks i.e. airstrikes, uav etc.

Indeed, BF3 divides it's comunity with those expansion packs =/

I'm all for weather changes!

Ships? Linked Continent? PLANETS? wow! Really all I wished for.

NPCs? Hmm well I hope it works hah!

Good luck for you and all SOE team man the game is great!

Some feedback

Hi. I have played Planetside 2 for 20 hours, and i'd like to give a little feedback.

It is hard to grasp. I had to join an outfit to have the basics explained, and more generally, a clear goal in this game. Maybe it would help if people could set goals for others, and give them a boost. It seems you allready thought to implement this (a player can mark an oponent...). Having multiple chained/parallel objective would be great (go there at time ; capture the outpost ; get in bio lab by tele; capture ...), or simpler one (kill any enemy in this area). Maybe a conflict bonus (if one side is asked to protect the sunderer, and an other to destruct it, whoever win gain both bonus). Basically make the map a quest builder / strategy planner.

Also, the open world nature of the game has it's drawbacks. As you said, even BF3 is an endless loop, but there is nothing that make you think you lost something during the night. The persistent world just create a need for persistence. By the way, that's typical of western design, to induce that kind of desire in their players, because of over ambition. You just can't argue with players against this fact, that's missing the point.

Random fact :
- I like "sailing" the heigthmap with a sunderer, so I hope one day the sea will be stormy.
- I dislike aircraft control.
- I dislike (playing infantry or tank against) rocket firing mosquito.
- The only decent counter to rocket firing mosquito is an aircraft. That means there is a really bad combo of feature.

Looking forward to it

One of the comments I read said: "Long hard road ahead, looking forwards to the journey." Well said. I, for one, like the idea of a PvE component. "bad ass aliens that want to gut you" ... What I see there is a huge spaceship coming out of orbit in the heat of a battle, shooting down anything in the air on its way down, and then dropping a big ass tank that rolls around the battlefield melting faces and tanks, forcing everyone to work together to clear it out, or the aliens get the base and start spawning infantry in ADDITION to the spaceship and tank. Make it hard. There are potentially 2000 players available to fight these aliens so they better be really hard to take down. I'm just saying.. it could be epic! :D

Sounds good

Hey, the game's looking pretty good so far and I really like all of your ideas for the future. I am a little skeptical about NPCs, especially being able to command and deploy them. Occasionally fighting off alien invasions would be cool OCCASIONALLY, but any more than that I feel too much of the players' attention would be shifted towards fighting cpu rather than other players.

Another thing I think would also be cool is instead of having factories and plants as the only buildings in the world, there should be other buildings like normal human cities/towns/villages to fight over. Those buildings can even be alien too haha.

But overall, good stuff you've got there and I'm really enjoying it. Keep it up.
Thanks for your post. I would be waiting for your next post and I am sure that is just as explosive as your recent post.

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ahh!

this is super exciting!!!! water combat will be phenomenal...and harvesting resources sounds interesting....i can see this game slowly becoming some sort of MMOFPSRTSRPG super game..which is alright with me!

Question

I have a question do you know when Planetside 2 is for mac?

mac version

Please, make a mac version for Planetside2. Please

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